Conversation with Zzenn Loren
Witchcraft, Tarot and the Inner Path......btw Substack's live feature is an amazing way for writers to collaborate.
Some conversations feel less like interviews and more like initiations. My recent podcast chat with Zzenn Loren was exactly that…an hour long journey through shadow, symbol, soul and beliefs.
🖤 If you missed the livestream, the full replay is below.
Who is Zzenn Loren?
Zzenn is not easy to summarize, which is part of his magick, I suppose! He is an author, musical artist, and esoteric philosopher whose work moves between ancestral memory, archetypal vision, and living gnosis. His story is stitched with encounters that feel mythic with mysterious figures appearing in childhood, ancestral whispers, the tattooing of ancient witch marks, and a raw kundalini awakening that reshaped his life.
On his Substack, Zzenn shares writings on the Wizzan Way, his evolving mystery school of thought, along with reflections on his ancestral lineages, initiatory experiences, and esoteric philosophy. His words are less about theory and more about lived initiation and fire tested truth.
You can read more of his work here: Zzenn’s Substack
What We Talked About
This conversation felt like an alchemy of two worlds crossing. We have a lot of the same views from that come from different backgrounds. During the conversation, Zzenn and I chatted about:
✨ My work with Four Winds Witchery, the community space and resource library I founded
📖 My book, The Novice Witch’s Grimoire
🎴 Tarot articles, including my approach to memorizing the Major Arcana and creating Tarot soundtracks as a way to bring archetypes to life
🖋️ My poem The Iron Womb, and what it means to write from both wound and wonder
We moved between art, ritual, lineage, and the ways witchcraft is remembered in the body as you move about your daily life as much as the mind.
What’s Next
This conversation isn’t the end. It’s the spark to a new idea. Zzenn and I will be collaborating on an article (or two) in the coming months, weaving our voices together on topics that deserve their own spotlight. If you enjoyed this exchange, keep an eye out for those joint pieces soon.
Why Watch
If you’ve ever felt pulled between the mystical and the practical, or wondered how personal story becomes spiritual philosophy, this conversation will resonate. Zzenn brings a fire forged presence, and I bring my own blend of practicality and soul deep inquiry. Together, we carved out a space that feels alive.
Watch the replay, take notes, let it stir something in you.
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Elizabeth Blackthorn
Four Winds Witchery
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